It's a simple idea about nature. I want to say a word for nature because we haven't talked that much about it the last couple days. I want to say a word for the soil and the bees and the plants and the animals, and tell you about a tool, a very simple tool that I have found. Although it's really nothing more than a literary conceit; it's not a technology. It's very powerful for, I think, changing our relationship to the natural world and to the other species on whom we depend. And that tool is very simply, as Chris suggested, looking at us and the world from the plants' or the animals' point of view. It's not my idea, other people have hit on it, but I've tried to take it to some new places.
这是关于自然界的一个简单想法 我想为自然界说几句话 因为在最近几天我们并没有太多谈到它。 我想为土地、蜜蜂以及一切的植物和动物说几句话。 告诉大家一个工具,我发现的非常简单的工具。 尽管事实上它只不过是一个文学的幻想--并非技术-- 但是对于改善我们和自然界的关系来讲,我认为它非常有效 并且对于我们所依赖的其他物种的关系也是一样。 这个工具就是,非常简单,如同Chris建议的那样, 从植物或者动物的视角去看待我们和世界。 这不是我的主意,其他人也想到了。 不过我试着将这个想法延伸和发展。
Let me tell you where I got it. Like a lot of my ideas, like a lot of the tools I use, I found it in the garden; I'm a very devoted gardener. And there was a day about seven years ago: I was planting potatoes, it was the first week of May -- this is New England, when the apple trees are just vibrating with bloom; they're just white clouds above. I was here, planting my chunks, cutting up potatoes and planting it, and the bees were working on this tree; bumblebees, just making this thing vibrate.
现在告诉大家我是如何领悟的。 如同我的许多想法一样,如同许多我使用的工具, 我在花园中想到了它。我是一个很勤恳的园丁。 大概是七年前的一天,我正在种马铃薯。 五月的第一周。 在新英格兰,正是苹果树花开旺盛的季节。 天空中白云朵朵。 我就在这里,种着这些大块头, 切割、种植。 蜜蜂飞来飞去。 大黄蜂,使树上的花摇动。
And one of the things I really like about gardening is that it doesn't take all your concentration, you really can't get hurt -- it's not like woodworking -- and you have plenty of kind of mental space for speculation. And the question I asked myself that afternoon in the garden, working alongside that bumblebee, was: what did I and that bumblebee have in common? How was our role in this garden similar and different? And I realized we actually had quite a bit in common: both of us were disseminating the genes of one species and not another, and both of us -- probably, if I can imagine the bee's point of view -- thought we were calling the shots. I had decided what kind of potato I wanted to plant -- I had picked my Yukon Gold or Yellow Finn, or whatever it was -- and I had summoned those genes from a seed catalog across the country, brought it, and I was planting it. And that bee, no doubt, assumed that it had decided, "I'm going for that apple tree, I'm going for that blossom, I'm going to get the nectar and I'm going to leave."
我非常喜欢园艺的一点就是 你不必全神贯注。 你不会受伤。不像木匠活那样。 而且你可以--你有很多思考的空间。 那个下午我问自己-- 和大黄蜂一同园艺-- 我问自己:我和大黄蜂有什么相同点? 我们在这个花园中的角色又是如何相似和不同? 然后我发现我们事实上确实有一点相同。 我们都在散播一个物种的基因而非另一个。 我们两者,也许,如果我能从蜜蜂的角度去想象, 认为我们正在发号施令。 我自己决定我想要种植什么样的马铃薯。 我选择了Yukon Gold或者Yellow Finn,或者其他的任何(品种)。 然后我在种子编目中找到它们,走遍全国将这些基因的品种收集在一起。 买下,然后种植。 而蜜蜂,毫无疑问,假设它已经决定了, 我要去那颗苹果树,我要采那朵花, 采到蜂蜜然后我就离开。
We have a grammar that suggests that's who we are; that we are sovereign subjects in nature, the bee as well as me. I plant the potatoes, I weed the garden, I domesticate the species. But that day, it occurred to me: what if that grammar is nothing more than a self-serving conceit? Because, of course, the bee thinks he's in charge or she's in charge, but we know better. We know that what's going on between the bee and that flower is that bee has been cleverly manipulated by that flower. And when I say manipulated, I'm talking about in a Darwinian sense, right? I mean it has evolved a very specific set of traits -- color, scent, flavor, pattern -- that has lured that bee in. And the bee has been cleverly fooled into taking the nectar, and also picking up some powder on its leg, and going off to the next blossom. The bee is not calling the shots. And I realized then, I wasn't either.
我们用一套语法,暗示着我们是谁, 我们是自然界中的主宰,蜜蜂以及我。 我种植马铃薯,替花园除草,驯养各种动植物。 但是那一天,我想到, 如果那个语法只不过是一个自私自利的幻觉呢? 因为,毫无疑问,蜜蜂认为他/她在控制一切。 而且--但是我们知道的更清楚。 我们知道蜜蜂和花之间的关系 就是蜜蜂被花聪明的控制了。 我讲的这个“控制”,是指从达尔文学说的角度,对吧? 是指它进化形成了一系列专有的特点-- 颜色,气味,滋味,样式--诱惑了蜜蜂。 蜜蜂就这样巧妙的被愚弄,采走了花蜜, 同时也在腿上沾上了一些花粉, 然后飞向下一朵花。 蜜蜂并不是主宰。 然后我意识到,我也不是。
I had been seduced by that potato and not another into planting its -- into spreading its genes, giving it a little bit more habitat. And that's when I got the idea, which was, "Well, what would happen if we kind of looked at us from this point of view of these other species who are working on us?" And agriculture suddenly appeared to me not as an invention, not as a human technology, but as a co-evolutionary development in which a group of very clever species, mostly edible grasses, had exploited us, figured out how to get us to basically deforest the world. The competition of grasses, right? And suddenly everything looked different. And suddenly mowing the lawn that day was a completely different experience.
我被那种马铃薯诱惑,而非另一种, 去种植它们--去传播它们的基因,给予它们多一点的栖息之地。 那时候我就想到,也就是,如果我们换一种角度去看待我们自己 也就是其他作用于我们的物种的角度,那么结果会怎样? 突然间,农艺对我来说已经不是一个发明,不是一项人类技术, 而是一种共同演化的发展 其中有一组非常聪明的物种,大多数是可实用的禾草类,利用了我们, 知道如何使我们大致的采伐地球。 禾草类植物之间的竞争,对吧? 因此突然间一切看起来都不同了。 突然间那天的割草经历也完全不同了。
I had thought always -- and in fact, had written this in my first book; this was a book about gardening -- that lawns were nature under culture's boot, that they were totalitarian landscapes, and that when we mowed them we were cruelly suppressing the species and never letting it set seed or die or have sex. And that's what the lawn was. But then I realized, "No, this is exactly what the grasses want us to do. I'm a dupe. I'm a dupe of the lawns, whose goal in life is to outcompete the trees, who they compete with for sunlight." And so by getting us to mow the lawn, we keep the trees from coming back, which in New England happens very, very quickly.
我经常想到,实际上,在我的第一本书里也写道-- 这是本关于园艺的书-- 草坪是被文明践踏的自然 它们是带有极权色彩的风景。 当我们修割它们时,我们残忍的压制着这些物种 从不让它们结籽,或死亡,或交配。 这就是草坪。 但是之后我觉察到,“不,这恰恰是草类希望我们做的。 我这个笨蛋。我是草坪的傻瓜,它们的终生目标就是战胜树类, 它们的竞争者--和它们争夺阳光的对手。” 这样通过使我们修割草坪,我们就一直抑制树木。 这种情况在新英格兰发展的十分快。
So I started looking at things this way and wrote a whole book about it called "The Botany of Desire." And I realized that in the same way you can look at a flower and deduce all sorts of interesting things about the taste and the desires of bees -- that they like sweetness, that they like this color and not that color, that they like symmetry -- what could we find out about ourselves by doing the same thing? That a certain kind of potato, a certain kind of drug, a sativa-indica Cannabis cross has something to say about us. And that, wouldn't this be kind of an interesting way to look at the world?
于是我开始以这种方法看待事物, 并且写了一整本关于它的书,即《植物的欲望》 然后我意识到用同样的方法去看待花朵 继而推理出各种有关于蜜蜂的欲望和口味的趣事, 比如它们喜欢甜味,它们钟情这种颜色而非另一种,它们喜欢对称。 如果同样去思考,那么关于我们自身,能挖掘到什么? 某种马铃薯,某种药物, 某种漂白印度大麻与我们之间的丝丝缕缕。 所以--难道这不是一种看待世界的有趣方法吗?
Now, the test of any idea -- I said it was a literary conceit -- is what does it get us? And when you're talking about nature, which is really my subject as a writer, how does it meet the Aldo Leopold test? Which is, does it make us better citizens of the biotic community? Get us to do things that leads to the support and perpetuation of the biota, rather than its destruction? And I would submit that this idea does this. So, let me go through what you gain when you look at the world this way, besides some entertaining insights about human desire.
那么,任何想法的检验--我讲过这是文学色彩的幻想-- 就是它能为我们带来什么? 作为一个作家,自然是我的研究主题,当你谈论它时, 它是如何满足Aldo Leopold的理论的? 也就是,它能使我们在这个生物群体中变的更好吗? 使我们正确的做事,以换来生物群的维系和永存, 而不是它的毁灭吗? 我认为这个想法确实能做到这一点。 所以让我直接来说明用这种看待世界的方式能获得什么, 除了,你知道,关于人类欲望的有趣洞察。
As an intellectual matter, looking at the world from other species' points of view helps us deal with this weird anomaly, which is -- and this is in the realm of intellectual history -- which is that we have this Darwinian revolution 150 years ago ... Ugh. Mini-Me. (Laughter) We have this intellectual, this Darwinian revolution in which, thanks to Darwin, we figured out we are just one species among many; evolution is working on us the same way it's working on all the others; we are acted upon as well as acting; we are really in the fiber, the fabric of life. But the weird thing is, we have not absorbed this lesson 150 years later; none of us really believes this. We are still Cartesians -- the children of Descartes -- who believe that subjectivity, consciousness, sets us apart; that the world is divided into subjects and objects; that there is nature on one side, culture on another. As soon as you start seeing things from the plant's point of view or the animal's point of view, you realize that the real literary conceit is that -- is the idea that nature is opposed to culture, the idea that consciousness is everything -- and that's another very important thing it does.
作为一个智能体,从其他物种的角度看世界 帮助我们处理这种怪异的偏差, 也就是说--在思想文化史的领域里-- 我们在150年前发生了达尔文革命-- 呃。我太小了(和大屏幕的相比)-- 我们有这种智慧的,达尔文革命,这要感谢他, 使我们是到我们只是众多物种中的一员。 我们和其他物种一样也遵循进化论的规律。 我们在作用的同时也被反作用。 我们的确是在纤维构造的世界中。 但是奇怪的是,我们没有--我们在150以后并没有真正接受。 没有人真的相信。 我们仍然是笛卡尔主义--笛卡尔的信徒-- 我们相信主观性,意识使我们不同。 世界被分成主体与客体。 自然是一回事,文化是另一回事。 直到你开始从植物或者动物的角度开始看待事物, 你会发觉这才是真正的幻想。 是--认为自然和文化是对立的(看法)。 认为意识就是一切。 并且另外一个很重要的方面是。
Looking at the world from other species' points of view is a cure for the disease of human self-importance. You suddenly realize that consciousness -- which we value and we consider the crowning achievement of nature, human consciousness -- is really just another set of tools for getting along in the world. And it's kind of natural that we would think it was the best tool. But, you know, there's a comedian who said, "Well, who's telling me that consciousness is so good and so important? Well, consciousness." So when you look at the plants, you realize that there are other tools and they're just as interesting.
从其他物种的角度看待世界 是治愈人类自负弱点的良方。 你突然间发觉,意识, 我们所重视和理解为,你知道,至高无上-- 自然成就的顶峰, 人类意识真的仅仅是和世界和睦相处的另一套工具而已。 而且比较自然的,我们会认为这是最好的工具。 不过,你知道--有位笑星说过, “谁跟我说意识是如此的美好和重要? 哦,意识使然。” 因此当你看到植物时,你会发觉它们是其它工具, 而且它们也一样有趣。
I'll give you two examples, also from the garden: lima beans. You know what a lima bean does when it's attacked by spider mites? It releases this volatile chemical that goes out into the world and summons another species of mite that comes in and attacks the spider mite, defending the lima bean. So what plants have -- while we have consciousness, tool making, language, they have biochemistry. And they have perfected that to a degree far beyond what we can imagine. Their complexity, their sophistication, is something to really marvel at, and I think it's really the scandal of the Human Genome Project. You know, we went into it thinking, 40,000 or 50,000 human genes and we came out with only 23,000. Just to give you grounds for comparison, rice: 35,000 genes. So who's the more sophisticated species? Well, we're all equally sophisticated. We've been evolving just as long, just along different paths. So, cure for self-importance, way to sort of make us feel the Darwinian idea. And that's really what I do as a writer, as a storyteller, is try to make people feel what we know and tell stories that actually help us think ecologically.
我举出两个例子,也是来自园艺。 青豆。你知道当它被红叶螨袭击时青豆会怎么反应吗? 它释放一种挥发性成分,使之散布开来 召集其他类的螨虫 它们来到继而攻击红叶螨,保护青豆。 因此植物所拥有的,我们拥有意识,工具制造,语言, 它们拥有生物化学。 并且它们将其完善到我们远远不能想象的境界。 它们的复杂程度,精密程度,真的令人叹为观止。 而且我认为“人类基因工程”的一个糗事是, 你知道,我们以为拥有4万或5万基因。 实际上只有2万3千个。 仅仅给大家提供一些对比的依据,稻米:3万5千基因。 所以到底谁是更精细高级的物种? 好,我们都同样高级。 我们只是--进化, 依据不同的线路进化罢了。 因此,自大的治愈方法,在某种程度上使我们感受到达尔文主义的含义。 这也真的是我,作为一个作家,一个故事讲述者要做的 是尝试使人们感觉我们所认知的东西,去讲述能帮助我们更加-- 从生态学的角度去思考。
Now, the other use of this is practical. And I'm going to take you to a farm right now, because I used this idea to develop my understanding of the food system and what I learned, in fact, is that we are all, now, being manipulated by corn. And the talk you heard about ethanol earlier today, to me, is the final triumph of corn over good sense. (Laughter) (Applause) It is part of corn's scheme for world domination. (Laughter) And you will see, the amount of corn planted this year will be up dramatically from last year and there will be that much more habitat because we've decided ethanol is going to help us.
那么,另外一个用处是很实际的。 我要谈到--我现在要带大家去一个农场。 因为我就是用这种方法来完善我对事物系统的理解 而且事实上,我获得的,就是我们目前,全部,都被玉米所操纵。 而且今天早些时候你们听到的关于酒精的演讲, 对我来说,是玉米对理智的最终胜利。(笑声) 部分是--(掌声)玉米统治世界的阴谋。 (笑声) 你将会看到今年种植玉米的数量将会较去年显著提升, 这样就会有更多的栖息地, 因为我们已经决定用酒精去帮助我们。
So it helped me understand industrial agriculture, which of course is a Cartesian system. It's based on this idea that we bend other species to our will and that we are in charge, and that we create these factories and we have these technological inputs and we get the food out of it or the fuel or whatever we want. Let me take you to a very different kind of farm.
所以--不过让我--所以这帮助我理解了工业化的农业, 显然,是一个笛卡尔系统。 基础是其他物种全部以我们的意志为转移, 是我们掌控一切,我们创造了这些工厂, 我们通过技术输入,继而从中得到食物, 或燃料,或任何我们想要的东西。 让我带你来到一个非常与众不同的农场。
This is a farm in the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia. I went looking for a farm where these ideas about looking at things from the species' point of view are actually implemented, and I found it in a man. The farmer's name is Joel Salatin. And I spent a week as an apprentice on his farm, and I took away from this some of the most hopeful news about our relationship to nature that I've ever come across in 25 years of writing about nature. And that is this: the farm is called Polyface, which means ... the idea is he's got six different species of animals, as well as some plants, growing in this very elaborate symbiotic arrangement.
它位于维吉尼亚的谢南多厄河谷。 我去寻找一个能使这些想法 即用其它物种的角度看待事情的想法,真正得到应用的农场。 我从一个农夫那里找到了,他的名字是Joel Salatin, 我在他的农场里当了一个星期的学徒。 然后我从那带走了这些信息,也许是关于人与自然关系的最有利的信息 在我25年关于大自然写作生涯中无意遇到的。 它就是。 农场的名字叫Ployface。意思是-- 他有六种不同种类的动物,以及一些植物, 在这种精心制作的共生环境中生长。
It's permaculture, those of you who know a little bit about this, such that the cows and the pigs and the sheep and the turkeys and the ... what else does he have? All the six different species -- rabbits, actually -- are all performing ecological services for one another, such that the manure of one is the lunch for the other and they take care of pests for one another. It's a very elaborate and beautiful dance, but I'm going to just give you a close-up on one piece of it, and that is the relationship between his cattle and his chickens, his laying hens. And I'll show you, if you take this approach, what you get, OK? And this is a lot more than growing food, as you'll see; this is a different way to think about nature and a way to get away from the zero-sum notion, the Cartesian idea that either nature's winning or we're winning, and that for us to get what we want, nature is diminished.
它叫做永久培养,你们中的有些人对此有一些了解, 比如牛和猪还有羊,还有火鸡,还有--有-- 还有什么,其他的还有什么来着? 一共六种不同的物种--还有兔子-- 它们都为彼此在这个生态空间中服务, 比如说某一个的粪便是另一个的午餐 它们为彼此留心害虫。 我不能--这真的是很精密的和美妙的聚会 不过我这是就其中的一点为大家仔细描述。 是牛和鸡(产卵鸡)之间的关系。 我要向大家展示,如果你用这种方法,你会得到什么 而且这绝不仅仅只是种植食物,慢慢你会发觉。 这是另一种思考自然的方式, 它使我们脱离那种得失所系的观点-- 也就是从笛卡尔的角度,不是自然胜利就是我们胜利 然后,使我们达到目的,削弱自然。
So, one day, cattle in a pen. The only technology involved here is this cheap electric fencing: relatively new, hooked to a car battery; even I could carry a quarter-acre paddock, set it up in 15 minutes. Cows graze one day. They move, OK? They graze everything down, intensive grazing. He waits three days, and then we towed in something called the Eggmobile. The Eggmobile is a very rickety contraption -- it looks like a prairie schooner made out of boards -- but it houses 350 chickens. He tows this into the paddock three days later and opens the gangplank, turns them down, and 350 hens come streaming down the gangplank -- clucking, gossiping as chickens will -- and they make a beeline for the cow patties.
有一天,在圈中的牛。 这里唯一进化的科技就是廉价的电网, 比较新,与一块汽车电池相连。 即使是我也能够围成一个四分之一亩大小的围场,在15分钟内安置完毕。 一天牛在吃草,它们移动着, 因此所有东西都面目全非--大吃一顿。 他等待了3天。 然后我们拖进了一个叫eggmobile的东西。 eggmobile是一个摇晃的精巧装置。 看起来像用纸板做成的长篷车一样, 但却是350只鸡的栖身之所。 三天之后他把这个东西拖进了围场,,然后开启踏板, 打开门然后350只母鸡如潮流一般涌下-- 咯咯叫,喧闹着,丝毫不受约束。 然后它们向牛粪径直走去。
And what they're doing is very interesting: they're digging through the cow patties for the maggots, the grubs, the larvae of flies. And the reason he's waited three days is because he knows that on the fourth day or the fifth day, those larvae will hatch and he'll have a huge fly problem. But he waits that long to grow them as big and juicy and tasty as he can because they are the chickens' favorite form of protein.
并且做着很有趣的事情。 它们在牛粪中啄来啄去 寻找蛆、虫、蝇类的幼虫。 而他之所以要等三天 则是因为他知道在第四天或者第五天,这些幼体将要孵化成虫, 到时候麻烦就大了。 不过他要尽可能等久一点使之成长为丰厚、可口、美味的食物 因为它们是鸡类最钟爱的蛋白质。
So the chickens do their kind of little breakdance and they're pushing around the manure to get at the grubs, and in the process they're spreading the manure out. Very useful second ecosystem service. And third, while they're in this paddock they are, of course, defecating madly and their very nitrogenous manure is fertilizing this field. They then move out to the next one, and in the course of just a few weeks, the grass just enters this blaze of growth. And within four or five weeks, he can do it again. He can graze again, he can cut, he can bring in another species, like the lambs, or he can make hay for the winter.
所以这些小鸡在那忙的不亦乐乎, 继而拨走粪便寻找它们的虫和蛆, 而在这个过程中,它们刚好把粪便(肥料)散播开来。 十分有用。二次生态体系方法。 再次,它们在围场中, 它们也必然的大量排便 它们含氮丰富的粪便也成了这片土地良好的肥料。 然后它们搬向下一个(围场), 仅仅几周的时间这片草地又焕发了勃勃生机。 然后4或5周之内,他又能如法炮制。 再次放牧,收割,再带来另一个物种, 比如羔羊,或者为冬天储备干草。
Now, I want you to just look really close up onto what's happened there. So, it's a very productive system. And what I need to tell you is that on 100 acres he gets 40,000 pounds of beef; 30,000 pounds of pork; 25,000 dozen eggs; 20,000 broilers; 1,000 turkeys; 1,000 rabbits -- an immense amount of food.
那么,我希望大家能够好好体会这其中的奥妙。 所以这是一个非常高效多产的系统。 我只需要告诉大家,在这100英亩的土地上 他收获了4万磅牛肉,3万磅猪肉,2万5千打鸡蛋, 2万只雏烤鸡,1000只火鸡,1000只兔子-- 如此丰厚的事物。
You know, you hear, "Can organic feed the world?" Well, look how much food you can produce on 100 acres if you do this kind of ... again, give each species what it wants, let it realize its desires, its physiological distinctiveness. Put that in play.
你想想,当你听到,“有机物能喂饱这个世界吗?” 好吧,看看在100英亩的农场上你能收获多少--如果你能-- 不断的使每个物种各取所需。 使它们充分发挥,它们生理上的特殊性。 将其加以应用。
But look at it from the point of view of the grass, now. What happens to the grass when you do this? When a ruminant grazes grass, the grass is cut from this height to this height, and it immediately does something very interesting. Any one of you who gardens knows that there is something called the root-shoot ratio, and plants need to keep the root mass in some rough balance with the leaf mass to be happy. So when they lose a lot of leaf mass, they shed roots; they kind of cauterize them and the roots die. And the species in the soil go to work basically chewing through those roots, decomposing them -- the earthworms, the fungi, the bacteria -- and the result is new soil. This is how soil is created. It's created from the bottom up. This is how the prairies were built, the relationship between bison and grasses.
不过现在从草的角度审视这一切。 当你这么做的时候对于草来说发生了什么呢? 当动物啃食草类时,草从这么高被削减到了这么高。 紧接着十分有趣的事情发生了。 了解园艺的人都知道有一个叫做“根冠比”的概念。 植物都需要保持住根群 同时和茎群保持大致的平衡以便维系。 所以当大量的茎叶被吃掉以后,它们也使根脱落。 就好像腐蚀根群然后使之死亡。 这样就给了土壤中的生物用武之地, 它们咀嚼着根群,将其分解-- 蚯蚓、真菌、细菌--结果就是新的土壤诞生了。 土壤就是这样诞生的。 它们从底部向上形成。 这也是草原的形成原理, 野牛和草类的关系。
And what I realized when I understood this -- and if you ask Joel Salatin what he is, he'll tell you he's not a chicken farmer, he's not a sheep farmer, he's not a cattle rancher; he's a grass farmer, because grass is really the keystone species of such a system -- is that, if you think about it, this completely contradicts the tragic idea of nature we hold in our heads, which is that for us to get what we want, nature is diminished. More for us, less for nature. Here, all this food comes off this farm, and at the end of the season there is actually more soil, more fertility and more biodiversity.
当我意识到这点的时候我发觉-- 如果你问Joel Salatin他是干什么的,他会说他既不是养鸡的, 也不是养羊的,他的农场也并非经营牛,他是一位种草的农夫, 因为草类的的确确是这类系统的灵魂物种-- 如果你仔细的去思考,这和我们头脑中的悲剧自然论恰恰相反, 也就是我们予求予取,大自然却被消耗。 我们得到越来越多,自然越来越少。 在这里,从农场里产出的所有事物,在季末 实际上会有更多的土壤,更多的肥料和更丰富的物种。
It's a remarkably hopeful thing to do. There are a lot of farmers doing this today. This is well beyond organic agriculture, which is still a Cartesian system, more or less. And what it tells you is that if you begin to take account of other species, take account of the soil, that even with nothing more than this perspectival idea -- because there is no technology involved here except for those fences, which are so cheap they could be all over Africa in no time -- that we can take the food we need from the Earth and actually heal the Earth in the process.
这是一件十分美好和有前途的事情。 有许多农夫都开始采用这种方法。 要远远好于有机农业, 也就是或多或少仍然是笛卡尔系统。 我们从中得到的启发就是如果你考虑到其他的物种, 考虑到土壤,即使仅仅是用这种全局的观点 --因为在这里几乎没有应用到任何科技,除了那几个栅栏而已, 而且它们也,你知道,非常便宜,很快就可以在非洲大范围应用-- 这样你就能,我们就可以从地球获取我们需要的食物, 而且实际在这个过程中安抚我们的地球。
This is a way to reanimate the world, and that's what's so exciting about this perspective. When we really begin to feel Darwin's insights in our bones, the things we can do with nothing more than these ideas are something to be very hopeful about.
这是一种可以使地球重现活力的方法。 这就是这种方法令人感到兴奋的地方。 我们可以真正从深处体会到达尔文理论的精髓, 我们只需要应用这些观念 就可以做到非常令人鼓舞的事情。
Thank you very much.
非常感谢大家。