♫ Jill Sobule: At a conference in Monterey by the big, big jellyfish tank, ♫
♫ Na konferenciji u Montereyu kraj velikog, velikog akvarija s meduzama, ♫
♫ I first saw you and I got so shy. ♫
♫ Vidjela sam te prvi put i bilo me je tako sram. ♫
♫ You see, I was a little paranoid 'cause I might have been high. ♫
♫ Znaš, bila sam pomalo paranoidna zato što sam možda bila napušena. ♫
♫ And I hadn't done that in ages and I won't do that again. ♫
♫ I nisam to odavno napravila i neću to opet napraviti. ♫
♫ But that's another story. ♫
♫ No to je nešto drugo. ♫
♫ Loved you forever and I've been a big fan, ♫
♫ Zauvijek te volim i velika sam obožavateljica, ♫
♫ the one-woman shows, I even rented "Pat." ♫
♫ tvojih nastupa, čak sam posudila "Pat". ♫
♫ I got enough nerve to come up to you, ♫
♫ Sakupila sam dovoljno hrabrosti da ti priđem, ♫
♫ but little did I know one year later we'd be doing this show. ♫
♫ no nisam znala da ćemo za godinu dana nastupati zajedno. ♫
♫ I sing. Julia Sweeney: I tell stories. Together: The Jill and Julia Show. ♫
♫ Ja pjevam. Julia Sweeney: Ja pričam priče. Zajedno: Show Jilla i Julie. ♫
♫ Sobule: Sometimes it works. Sweeney: Sometimes it doesn't. ♫
♫ Sobule: Ponekad upali. Sweeney: Ponekad ne. ♫
♫ Together: The Jill and Julia Show. ♫
♫ Zajedno: Show Jilla i Julie ♫
♫ Sweeney: At a conference in Monterey next to the big, big jellyfish tank, ♫
♫ Sweeney: Na konferenciji u Montereyu kraj velikog, velikog akvarija s meduzama, ♫
♫ I first saw you and I wasn't so shy. ♫
♫ Vidjela sam te prvi put i nisam bila tako sramežljiva. ♫
I made a beeline for you and told you what a huge fan I was ever since I was writing that pilot for Fox, and Wendy and I wanted you to do the theme song. And then the pilot didn't go and I was so sad, but I kept remaining a fan of yours. And then when I went through that big, horrible breakup with Carl and I couldn't get off the couch, I listened to your song, ♫ "Now That I Don't Have You," ♫ over and over and over and over again. And I can't believe you're here and that I'm meeting you here at TED. And also, I can't believe that we're eating sushi in front of the fish tank, which, personally, I think is really inappropriate. (Laughter) (Applause)
Nisam okolišala i rekla sam da sam tvoja velika obožavateljica. Otkad sam pisala onu pilot-epizodu za Fox, i Wendy, i htjela sam da ti napišeš naslovnu pjesmu. I tad epizodu nisu prikazali i bila sam tako tužna, no ostala sam tvoja obožavateljica. I tada, nakon tog velikog, groznog prekida s Karlom kad nisam mogla ustati s kauča, slušala sam tvoju pjesmu, ♫ "Sad kad te nemam" ♫ opet i opet i opet i opet iznova. I ne mogu vjerovati da si ovdje, na TED-u. Također, ne mogu vjerovati da jedemo suši ispred akvarija s meduzama, što osobno smatram stvarno neumjesnim. (Smijeh) (Pljesak)
And little did I know that one year later ... ♫ we'd be doing this show. ♫
No nisam znala da ćemo za godinu dana ... ♫ nastupati zajedno. ♫
♫ Sobule: I sing. Sweeney: I tell stories. Together: The Jill and Julia Show. ♫
♫ Sobule: Ja pjevam. Sweeney: Ja pričam priče. Zajedno: Show Jilla i Julie. ♫
Sobule: Hey, they asked us back! Sweeney: Can you stand it?!
Sobule: Hej, opet su nas pozvali! Sweeney: Možeš li to podnijeti?
♫ Together: The Jill and Julia, the Jill and Julia, the Jill and Julia Show. ♫
♫ Zajedno: Jill i Julia, Jill i Julia, Show Jilla i Julie. ♫
♫ Sobule: Why are all our heroes so imperfect? ♫
♫ Sobule: Zašto su svi naši junaci tako nesavršeni? ♫
♫ Why do they always bring me down? ♫
♫ Zašto me uvijek rastužuju? ♫
♫ Why are all our heroes so imperfect? ♫
♫ Zašto su svi naši junaci tako nesavršeni? ♫
♫ Statue in the park has lost his crown. ♫
♫ Kip u parku je izgubio svoju krunu. ♫
♫ William Faulkner, drunk and depressed. ♫ Sweeney: Mmm.
♫ William Faulkner, pijan i depresivan. ♫
♫ Dorothy Parker, mean, drunk and depressed. ♫ Sweeney: I know.
♫ Dorothy Parker zla, pijana i depresivna. ♫
♫ And that guy, "Seven Years in Tibet," turned out to be a Nazi. ♫ Sweeney: Yeah.
♫ I taj je tip, Sedam godina u Tibetu, ispao nacist. ♫
♫ Founding fathers all had slaves. ♫ Sweeney: I know.
♫ Svi očevi osnivači imali su robove. ♫
♫ The explorers slaughtered the braves. ♫ Sweeney: Horribly.
♫ Istraživači su ubijali junake. ♫ Sweeney: Grozno.
♫ Sobule: The Old Testament God can be so petty. ♫
♫ Sobule: Bog iz Starog zavjeta može biti tako beznačajan. ♫
Sweeney: Don't get me started on that. (Laughter)
Sweeney: Nemoj da počnem o tome.
♫ Sobule: Paul McCartney, jealous of John, even more so now that he's gone. ♫
♫ Sobule: Paul McCartney je ljubomoran na Johna, čak više sad kad ga nema. ♫
♫ Dylan was so mean to Donovan in that movie. ♫
♫ Dylan je bio tako zao prema Donovanu u onom filmu. ♫
♫ Pablo Picasso, cruel to his wives. ♫ Sweeney: Horrible.
♫ Pablo Picasso, okrutan prema svojim ženama. ♫ Sweeney: Grozno.
♫ Sobule: My favorite poets took their own lives. ♫
♫ Sobule: Moji najdraži pjesnici oduzeli su si život. ♫
♫ Orson Welles peaked at twenty-five, below before our eyes. ♫
♫ Orson Welles je dosegnuo vrhunac u 25-oj, glupirao se pred našim očima ♫
♫ And he sold bad wine. ♫
♫ I prodavao je loše vino. ♫
♫ Together: Why are all our heroes so imperfect? Yeah ♫
♫ Zajedno: Zašto su svi naši junaci tako nesavršeni, ha? ♫
♫ Why do they always bring me down? ♫
♫ Zašto me uvijek rastužuju? ♫
♫ Sobule: Heard Babe Ruth was full of malice. ♫ Sweeney: Oh.
♫ Sobule: Čula sam da je Babe Ruth bio pun zlobe. ♫
♫ Lewis Carroll I'm sure did Alice. ♫ Sweeney: What?!
♫ Sigurna sam da je Lewis Carroll zaveo Alice. ♫
♫ Plato in the cave with those very young boys. ♫ Sweeney: Ooh...
♫ Platon u pećini s tim jako mladim dječacima. ♫ Sweeney: Uuuh...
♫ Sobule: Hillary supported the war. ♫
♫ Sobule: Hillary je podržavala rat. ♫
♫ Sweeney: Even Thomas Friedman supported the war. ♫ (Laughter)
♫ Sweeney: Čak je Thomas Friedman podržavao rat. ♫
♫ Sobule: Colin Powell turned out to be ... Together: ... such a pussy. ♫ (Laughter) (Applause)
♫ Sobule: Colin Powell je ispao -- Zajedno: -- takva pizda. ♫
♫ Sobule: William Faulkner, drunk and depressed, ♫
♫ Sobule: William Faulkner, pijan i depresivan, ♫
♫ Tennessee Williams, drunk and depressed. ♫ Sweeney: Yeah.
♫ Tennessee Williams, pijan i depresivan. ♫
♫ Sobule: Take it, Julia. ♫
Sobule: Preuzmi, Julia.
Sweeney: Okay. Oprah was never necessarily a big hero of mine. I mean, I watch Oprah mostly when I'm home in Spokane visiting my mother. And to my mother, Oprah is a greater moral authority than the Pope, which is actually saying something because she's a devout Catholic. Anyway, I like Oprah -- I like her girlfriendy-ness, I like her weight issues, I like how she's transformed talk television, I like how she's brought reading back to America -- but there was something that happened the last two weeks that was ... I call it the Soon-Yi moment: it is the moment when I cannot continue supporting someone. And that was that she did two entire shows promoting that movie "The Secret." Do you guys know about that movie "The Secret"? It makes "What the Bleep Do We Know" seem like a doctoral dissertation from Harvard on quantum mechanics -- that's how bad it is. It makes "The DaVinci Code" seem like "War and Peace." That movie is so horrible. It promotes such awful pseudoscience. And the basic idea is that there's this law of attraction, and your thoughts have this vibrating energy that goes out into the universe and then you attract good things to happen to you. On a scientific basis, it's more than just "Power of Positive Thinking" -- it has a horrible, horrible dark side. Like if you get ill, it's because you've just been thinking negative thoughts. Yeah, stuff like that was in the movie and she's promoting it. And all I'm saying is that I really wish that Murray Gell-Mann would go on Oprah and just explain to her that the law of attraction is, in fact, not a law. So that's what I have to say. (Laughter)
Sweeney: U redu. Oprah nikada nije bila mojom junakinjom. Gledam Oprah uglavnom kod kuće u Spokaneu dok sam u posjeti majci. I mojoj je majci, Oprah veći moralni autoritet od Pape, što zapravo nešto govori jer je pobožna katolkinja. Kako bilo, sviđa mi se Oprah. Volim njenu druželjubivost. Sviđaju mi se njeni problemi s težinom. Sviđa mi se kako je transformirala razgovorne emisije. Sviđa mi se kako je vratila čitanje u Ameriku. No nešto se dogodilo u zadnja dva tjedna tj. -- zovem to "trenutak Soon-Yi". To je trenutak kad više ne mogu podržavati nekoga. I to je nešto što je radila dvije emisije promovirajući onaj film "Tajna". Znate li vi dečki taj film? Uz njega film "Koji k... uopće znamo?" izgleda kao doktorska disertacija s Harvarda, o kvantnoj mehanici -- tako je loš. Uz njega "Da Vincijev kod" izgleda kao "Rat i mir". Film je tako grozan. Promovira užasnu pseudoznanost. Osnovna je ideja da postoji taj "zakon privlačnosti", i vaše misli vibriraju energiju koja odlazi u svemir i tad vi privlačite dobre stvari. Sa znanstvenog gledišta, to je više od "moći pozitivnog razmišljanja" -- ima groznu, groznu tamnu stranu. Npr., ako se razbolite, to je samo zato što ste razmišljali negativno. Da, to je bilo u filmu. I ona to promovira. I samo želim reći da stvarno želim da Murray Gell-Mann ode do Oprah i jednostavno joj objasni da "zakon privlačenja" nije, u stvari, zakon. Evo što sam imala za reći. (Smijeh)
(Applause)
(Pljesak)
♫ Sobule: I sing. Sweeney: I tell stories. Together: The Jill and Julia Show. ♫
♫ Sobule: Ja pjevam. Sweeney: Ja pričam priče. Zajedno: Show Jilla i Julie. ♫
♫ Sobule: Sometimes it works. Sweeney: Sometimes it doesn't. ♫
♫ Sobule: Ponekad upali. Sweeney: ponekad ne. ♫
♫ Together: The Jill and Julia, the Jill and Julia, the Jill and Julia Show. ♫
♫ Zajedno: Jill i Julia, Jill i Julia, Show Jilla i Julie. ♫
(Applause)
(Pljesak)